Comments on: Upcoming 3.2 Retribution Changes.. http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/ One mans quest to bring good Retribution Paladin DPS to a raid. Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:46:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Darrtanus http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-772 Darrtanus Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:44:05 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/#comment-772 Did some testing on the PTR. Could not test dps real well as instances were down as were battlegrounds. From target dummy testing and world pvp, my thoughts are.....<br /><br />PvE: We are ok, maybe even slightly better dps.<br /><br />PvP: The boost to resilience and the loss of our burst damage is going to hurt us in PvP. Did some testing on the PTR. Could not test dps real well as instances were down as were battlegrounds. From target dummy testing and world pvp, my thoughts are…..

PvE: We are ok, maybe even slightly better dps.

PvP: The boost to resilience and the loss of our burst damage is going to hurt us in PvP.

]]> By: Micah http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-771 Micah Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:30:25 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/#comment-771 So I parked myself at the target dummies last night on the PTR and just went to town...<br /><br />PVE impression<br />I LOVE the changes.<br /><br />Burst - Has been gutted.<br /><br />Single Target DPS -<br />Way way boosted. Once SoV gets full dps jumps up. The good news is that it takes all of about 3 seconds for it to reach 5.<br /><br />AoE DPS -<br />Its actually up. It just takes more to get it started. DS applies SoV to everything it hits so after a few "rotations" you are seeing some large numbers tick from things you aren't targeting. I have about 3800 unbuffed AP and a 5-stack was ticking for about 1200.<br /><br />A few side notes.<br />1. Glyph of SoV has not changed yet. Still gives 10 expertise.<br /><br />2. The new Triumph badge Libram rocks. There doesn't seem to be any internal cooldown. When I had SoV on 3 mobs it was refreshing the +200 strength buff every tick.<br /><br />3. Bold Dragon's Eyes are +34 Strength now.<br /><br />4. Epic Red uncut gems are 15 heroism badges. (stock up, because titanium takes 450 to prospect.) So I parked myself at the target dummies last night on the PTR and just went to town…

PVE impression
I LOVE the changes.

Burst – Has been gutted.

Single Target DPS -
Way way boosted. Once SoV gets full dps jumps up. The good news is that it takes all of about 3 seconds for it to reach 5.

AoE DPS -
Its actually up. It just takes more to get it started. DS applies SoV to everything it hits so after a few "rotations" you are seeing some large numbers tick from things you aren't targeting. I have about 3800 unbuffed AP and a 5-stack was ticking for about 1200.

A few side notes.
1. Glyph of SoV has not changed yet. Still gives 10 expertise.

2. The new Triumph badge Libram rocks. There doesn't seem to be any internal cooldown. When I had SoV on 3 mobs it was refreshing the +200 strength buff every tick.

3. Bold Dragon's Eyes are +34 Strength now.

4. Epic Red uncut gems are 15 heroism badges. (stock up, because titanium takes 450 to prospect.)

]]> By: whatsmymain http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-770 whatsmymain Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:54:03 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/#comment-770 Yeah.... if they removed the cd on Exorcism could you imagine the Holy dps builds that would come out of that? Holy paladins could go from one button healers to one button dps!<br /><br />Really the biggest thing the exorcism change effects is prot tanking. <br /><br />In its current incarnation you can't use exorcism period in pvp so being able to use this in pvp at all should make you gratefull even if it is based off of an art of war proc. Yeah…. if they removed the cd on Exorcism could you imagine the Holy dps builds that would come out of that? Holy paladins could go from one button healers to one button dps!

Really the biggest thing the exorcism change effects is prot tanking.

In its current incarnation you can't use exorcism period in pvp so being able to use this in pvp at all should make you gratefull even if it is based off of an art of war proc.

]]> By: Suicidal Zebra http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-769 Suicidal Zebra Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:39:15 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/06/upcoming-3-2-retribution-changes/#comment-769 Basically, SoC will virtually match the current incarnation of SoB, without the feedback damage. In fact, the damage will be slightly less (SoB does 46% of weapon damage as Holy IIRC).<br /><br />Very, very simply, it's pretty much a wash for Ret PvE. Damage may or may not be slightly up depending on changes to AoW mechanics and Judgement damage. But there is nothing in the patch notes which makes Ret PvE more interesting.<br /><br />Ret PvP is pretty much boned, with these and the Resilience changes crippling Burst. Basically, SoC will virtually match the current incarnation of SoB, without the feedback damage. In fact, the damage will be slightly less (SoB does 46% of weapon damage as Holy IIRC).

Very, very simply, it's pretty much a wash for Ret PvE. Damage may or may not be slightly up depending on changes to AoW mechanics and Judgement damage. But there is nothing in the patch notes which makes Ret PvE more interesting.

Ret PvP is pretty much boned, with these and the Resilience changes crippling Burst.

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