Comments on: Mana Regen In 3.1 PTR http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/ One mans quest to bring good Retribution Paladin DPS to a raid. Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:46:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Josh http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-686 Josh Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:03:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-686 Sorry, got the wording on Divine Plea and JotW mixed up.<br/><br/>Carry on. Sorry, got the wording on Divine Plea and JotW mixed up.

Carry on.

]]> By: Peregrine http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-685 Peregrine Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:16:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-685 That priority isn't really wildly different, CS and DS and J and HoW haven't moved. Ex is low because atm it isn't a high DPS ability, come 3.1, however, it's damage-dealing will be fairly close to HoW. HW is high on the list just because of the nukage on undead trash, elsewhere it's kind of pointless.<br/><br/>Anyway, firelight, you don't want to CS right after Judgement because then they come off CD at the same time, hence you lose DPS.<br/><br/>Lastly, test results from different Glyph builds on the PTR: <br/>http://paladin-storm.blogspot.com/2009/03/dps-for-training-dummies.html That priority isn’t really wildly different, CS and DS and J and HoW haven’t moved. Ex is low because atm it isn’t a high DPS ability, come 3.1, however, it’s damage-dealing will be fairly close to HoW. HW is high on the list just because of the nukage on undead trash, elsewhere it’s kind of pointless.

Anyway, firelight, you don’t want to CS right after Judgement because then they come off CD at the same time, hence you lose DPS.

Lastly, test results from different Glyph builds on the PTR:
http://paladin-storm.blogspot.com/2009/03/dps-for-training-dummies.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-684 Anonymous Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:10:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-684 Peregrine - that priority is wildly different than what I'm using right now. I'm using Baelor's:<br/><br/>J > HoW > CS > DS > Cons > Ex > HW<br/><br/>There is a Mana Regen and Rotation thread going on right now in the Off Spec forum of Maintankadin if you'd care to discuss?<br/><br/>Fedaykin98 Peregrine – that priority is wildly different than what I'm using right now. I'm using Baelor's:

J > HoW > CS > DS > Cons > Ex > HW

There is a Mana Regen and Rotation thread going on right now in the Off Spec forum of Maintankadin if you'd care to discuss?

Fedaykin98

]]> By: Suicidal Zebra http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-683 Suicidal Zebra Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:49:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-683 Erm, you're wrong Josh. Divine Plea works off Total mana:<br/><br/><a HREF="http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=54428" REL="nofollow">Wowhead Link</a>.<br/><br/>Hence stacking Int does increase your mana regen, as well as your total mana. Not enough to make you want to take Hunter mail, but certainly enough to play nice with guildy Mages, Druids and other Paladins 4 ze buffs Erm, you’re wrong Josh. Divine Plea works off Total mana:

Wowhead Link.

Hence stacking Int does increase your mana regen, as well as your total mana. Not enough to make you want to take Hunter mail, but certainly enough to play nice with guildy Mages, Druids and other Paladins 4 ze buffs

]]> By: Josh http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-682 Josh Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:52:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-682 Base mana = 4394<br/><br/>Divine Plea works off your base mana.<br/><br/>Stacking Intellect won't help it. Base mana = 4394

Divine Plea works off your base mana.

Stacking Intellect won’t help it.

]]> By: Peregrine http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-681 Peregrine Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:35:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-681 oh, and on the Exorcism change:<br/><br/>http://paladin-storm.blogspot.com/2009/03/exorcism-change.html<br/><br/>Basically, looking at it now, our priority looks like it will go (Divine Storm and Crusader Strike switch places given multiple mobs or not):<br/><br/>Judgement > Hammer of Wrath > Exorcism > Holy Wrath > Divine Storm > Crusader Strike > Consecrate<br/><br/>More or less what it is now, just Exorcism thrown further up towards the top, right behind our highest crit chance and biggest number spells. oh, and on the Exorcism change:

http://paladin-storm.blogspot.com/2009/03/exorcism-change.html

Basically, looking at it now, our priority looks like it will go (Divine Storm and Crusader Strike switch places given multiple mobs or not):

Judgement > Hammer of Wrath > Exorcism > Holy Wrath > Divine Storm > Crusader Strike > Consecrate

More or less what it is now, just Exorcism thrown further up towards the top, right behind our highest crit chance and biggest number spells.

]]> By: Peregrine http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-680 Peregrine Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:31:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-680 Suicidal Zebra recently corrected what was my assumption on "Base Mana" as well. Even with NO Intellect gear, we're STILL not at Base Mana. As I understand it, Base Mana is our Mana minus ALL Intellect buffs, including what could be called our "base intellect". So according to SZ, the mana return will be... I can't even remember the exact number, but it was somewhere between 1000 and 1500. Still a respectable sum to return, though :) Suicidal Zebra recently corrected what was my assumption on “Base Mana” as well. Even with NO Intellect gear, we’re STILL not at Base Mana. As I understand it, Base Mana is our Mana minus ALL Intellect buffs, including what could be called our “base intellect”. So according to SZ, the mana return will be… I can’t even remember the exact number, but it was somewhere between 1000 and 1500. Still a respectable sum to return, though :)

]]> By: Stoico http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/comment-page-1/#comment-679 Stoico Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:47:00 +0000 http://retribution-paladin.co.uk/2009/03/mana-regen-in-3-1-ptr/#comment-679 What other glyphs did you have on,<br/>Crusader strike, consecration ?<br/>And did you have the 4 set bonus from T7.5 ?<br/><br/>But indeed interesting, as it seems like we can go without worrying on mana regen, and glyph for more damage instead or utility. Meaning we can leave glyph of blood and crusader strike out ?<br/><br/>Rotation seems to be ok by me, problaly the way im gonna hit it as well. Maybe switch divine storm up, if there is multiple mobs. But have to run some runs to tweak that around. What other glyphs did you have on,
Crusader strike, consecration ?
And did you have the 4 set bonus from T7.5 ?

But indeed interesting, as it seems like we can go without worrying on mana regen, and glyph for more damage instead or utility. Meaning we can leave glyph of blood and crusader strike out ?

Rotation seems to be ok by me, problaly the way im gonna hit it as well. Maybe switch divine storm up, if there is multiple mobs. But have to run some runs to tweak that around.

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