Mana Regen In 3.1 PTR
Hey guys.
Just wanted to pop a quick post on here to tell you all about an experiment I ran last night on the PTR.
So armed with the new changes, but no dps meter, I ran myself to the glyph vendor in dalaran and picked up the new Exorcism Glyph and the Seal of the Martyr/Blood Glyph.
I only applied the Exorcism Glyph.
Off I ran to Stormwind and to the test dummies, buffed up and started plugging away at the helpless wooden object.
For 5-10 minutes I stood there – spamming everything that wasnt on Cool Down, including concecrate and didnt really run out of mana. If I got to 50% of mana left I popped Divine Plea and I was back up to 90-100% mana again.
Its good to remember that the new Judgements of the Wise returns 25% of base mana now. Which unless you have a lot of Int gear is pretty much 25% of our entire mana bar. Judgements are now almost back to how they were when 3.0 first came out (33% returned back then IIRC)
So I think with the added re-gen from buffs like improoved Blessing of Wisdom and other sources we shouldn’t have any problems with mana regen.
Which is good news!
The only thing we have to work out now is our rotation. It seems that we can still spam consecrate but is it worth it now we have Exorcism?
I’m guessing our priority should remain roughly the same, but I was getting almost 5k Crits with exorcism in there.
Judgement > Crusader Strike > Exorcism > Divine Storm > Consecrate.
Does that look OK? Or is the Judgement going to off Cool down before DS or Cons? Its not really a big deal – just remember to punch Judgement over anything else!
PS – In naxx on Monday night i managed to get a 484k Judgement of the Martyr Crit on the adds after Razz died! LOL! I literally Crit myself to death!! Next time I’m gonna go in guns blazing full on! (read my Avenging wrath was on cool down!)
8 Responses so far
Stoico
March 25th, 2009
12:47 pm
What other glyphs did you have on,
Crusader strike, consecration ?
And did you have the 4 set bonus from T7.5 ?
But indeed interesting, as it seems like we can go without worrying on mana regen, and glyph for more damage instead or utility. Meaning we can leave glyph of blood and crusader strike out ?
Rotation seems to be ok by me, problaly the way im gonna hit it as well. Maybe switch divine storm up, if there is multiple mobs. But have to run some runs to tweak that around.
Peregrine
March 25th, 2009
1:31 pm
Suicidal Zebra recently corrected what was my assumption on “Base Mana” as well. Even with NO Intellect gear, we’re STILL not at Base Mana. As I understand it, Base Mana is our Mana minus ALL Intellect buffs, including what could be called our “base intellect”. So according to SZ, the mana return will be… I can’t even remember the exact number, but it was somewhere between 1000 and 1500. Still a respectable sum to return, though
Peregrine
March 25th, 2009
1:35 pm
oh, and on the Exorcism change:
http://paladin-storm.blogspot.com/2009/03/exorcism-change.html
Basically, looking at it now, our priority looks like it will go (Divine Storm and Crusader Strike switch places given multiple mobs or not):
Judgement > Hammer of Wrath > Exorcism > Holy Wrath > Divine Storm > Crusader Strike > Consecrate
More or less what it is now, just Exorcism thrown further up towards the top, right behind our highest crit chance and biggest number spells.
Josh
March 25th, 2009
4:52 pm
Base mana = 4394
Divine Plea works off your base mana.
Stacking Intellect won’t help it.
Suicidal Zebra
March 25th, 2009
7:49 pm
Erm, you’re wrong Josh. Divine Plea works off Total mana:
Wowhead Link.
Hence stacking Int does increase your mana regen, as well as your total mana. Not enough to make you want to take Hunter mail, but certainly enough to play nice with guildy Mages, Druids and other Paladins 4 ze buffs
Anonymous
March 25th, 2009
9:10 pm
Peregrine – that priority is wildly different than what I'm using right now. I'm using Baelor's:
J > HoW > CS > DS > Cons > Ex > HW
There is a Mana Regen and Rotation thread going on right now in the Off Spec forum of Maintankadin if you'd care to discuss?
Fedaykin98
Peregrine
March 25th, 2009
10:16 pm
That priority isn’t really wildly different, CS and DS and J and HoW haven’t moved. Ex is low because atm it isn’t a high DPS ability, come 3.1, however, it’s damage-dealing will be fairly close to HoW. HW is high on the list just because of the nukage on undead trash, elsewhere it’s kind of pointless.
Anyway, firelight, you don’t want to CS right after Judgement because then they come off CD at the same time, hence you lose DPS.
Lastly, test results from different Glyph builds on the PTR:
http://paladin-storm.blogspot.com/2009/03/dps-for-training-dummies.html
Josh
March 26th, 2009
5:03 am
Sorry, got the wording on Divine Plea and JotW mixed up.
Carry on.
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